tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post6854256123389423923..comments2023-09-11T17:58:13.764-04:00Comments on The Rebbetzin's Husband: Part I - Our love for the Chief Rabbinate of IsraelThe Rebbetzin's Husbandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-27382996630130494112011-07-10T02:38:07.994-04:002011-07-10T02:38:07.994-04:00Esser-
Who said anything about democracy, or wait...Esser-<br /><br />Who said anything about democracy, or waiting for mashiach, in this post?The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-82052426206828172662011-07-10T02:26:23.717-04:002011-07-10T02:26:23.717-04:00Still have no clue where democracy supposedly appe...Still have no clue where democracy supposedly appears in the Torah, like so many proclaim, and thus I do not see the relevance of no. 2.<br /><br />I accept that it is a temporary, necessary, Western evil for today. Unfortunately, not too many people are ready to begin planning the re-institution of qorbanoth, the rebuilding of the Miqdash, the re-institution of a Sanhedrin, and the establishment of a king (who according to the Ramba"m does not initially have to be from the line of David). <br /><br />To think that we must wait around for Mashiah to do all the work is just silly, and a philosophy which has not had such a great hold on Am Yisrael, save for the last 500 years.<br /><br />At best, the Chief Rabbinate does damage control, but even that is pushing it, especially now that the courts have begun telling the Rabbinate which [messianic] bakeries and treif meat companies to give a heksher to.<br /><br />It's only a matter of time before your "separation of church and state" becomes non-existent.Esser Agarothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12853681733864707489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-74565908292699426462011-07-06T13:21:12.360-04:002011-07-06T13:21:12.360-04:00Joel, R' Mordechai-
Agreed, and well said.Joel, R' Mordechai-<br />Agreed, and well said.The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-39640137945981828582011-07-06T00:37:33.070-04:002011-07-06T00:37:33.070-04:00To go back to #1 - History. Earlier Chief Rabbis,...To go back to #1 - History. Earlier Chief Rabbis, all the way to Rav Avraham Elkana Shapiro and Rav Mordechai Eliyahu (my bias is showing), displayed a real concern and interest in the public welfare. They travelled around the country, visited communities, spoke with citizens and soldiers. Then they went home to Jerusalem and worked demonstrably hard to find ways to address the problems of the country and the public. One only has to peruse their responsa and correspondences to see this. They were also involved in actively promoting the Zionist enterprise. I recall Rav Manny Marcus z'l telling me what an impression it made when Rav Uziel called upon American rabbanim to come on aliyah in the 50s.<br /><br />The disappointment lies in all the above qualities not being so obviously evident anymore.<br /><br />Rav Chaim Brisker's characterization that the rav's job is to defend the widows and orphans isn't so evident these days; and the public wants it. I think that is true, too, for the North American public when they look to Israel (as the exiles historically have) for the light of instruction and kedushah.Mordechai Y. Scherhttp://www.kolberamah.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-46657163748811096062011-07-05T11:28:39.536-04:002011-07-05T11:28:39.536-04:00IMHO the disappointment stems at least partially f...IMHO the disappointment stems at least partially from the political overtones that are part of a lack of distance between the church and the state. I think another source is that they are percieved halachically as Laying low (i.e. always looking over their right shoulder) rather than seeking out the poorer quarters <br />Where the ragged people go <br />Looking for the places only they would know <br /><br />KT<br />Joel RichAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-23565838195936676382011-07-05T09:22:10.379-04:002011-07-05T09:22:10.379-04:00Okay, but I've never heard that in theoretical...Okay, but I've never heard that in theoretical terms either.Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-73168893989607675812011-07-05T08:23:47.501-04:002011-07-05T08:23:47.501-04:00Steg-
That was in the Concept segment. To go back ...Steg-<br />That was in the Concept segment. To go back to the beginning of the sentence - "<b>In theory</b>".The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-74913011863443415312011-07-05T08:21:44.428-04:002011-07-05T08:21:44.428-04:00You said that the Rabbanut "still allow[s] fo...You said that the Rabbanut "still allow[s] for the separation of church and state which appeals to North American Jews". How do you see Separation of Synagogue and State in Israel? Because i don't see it, and i've never heard anyone else claim that it exists. Unless you just mean that the Rabbanut doesn't control the [rest of the] government in a theocratic fashion?Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-48066963386010501102011-07-04T22:07:22.532-04:002011-07-04T22:07:22.532-04:00Steg-
What about it?Steg-<br />What about it?The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-42692605717525931102011-07-04T20:09:29.470-04:002011-07-04T20:09:29.470-04:00Separation of Church and State?Separation of Church and State?Steg (dos iz nit der šteg)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07694556690190505030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-60223112550701743592011-07-04T19:10:35.467-04:002011-07-04T19:10:35.467-04:00Bob-
I have a list of four reasons for the disappo...Bob-<br />I have a list of four reasons for the disappointment; perhaps I'll use that as a Part II to this post.The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-19615985152497245322011-07-04T15:18:54.724-04:002011-07-04T15:18:54.724-04:00How much of the "disappointment" stems f...How much of the "disappointment" stems from failure to install a like-minded candidate, as if the office belonged to a specific group or stream?Bob Millernoreply@blogger.com