tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post4156902203202406920..comments2023-09-11T17:58:13.764-04:00Comments on The Rebbetzin's Husband: Shabbos App, lay off my Shabbos!The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-65657663846495669512014-10-18T18:11:57.964-04:002014-10-18T18:11:57.964-04:00(coming from Havel Havelim)
My frei kids emailed m...(coming from Havel Havelim)<br />My frei kids emailed me about this app. I wrote back that THANK G-d I have ONE day a week not enslaved to technology!Rickismomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078192111057725026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-69638679376114788842014-10-06T17:24:09.170-04:002014-10-06T17:24:09.170-04:00The way to respond is to challenge the entire prem...The way to respond is to challenge the entire premise. To wit: what kind of people can't go 25 hours without using a cell phone? Are people really so addicted to texting that telling them they can't for 25 hours a week will cause them to leave Judaism? What does that say about them as opposed to halacha?<br />And then we get into the whole Conservative argument. When the Conservatives first permitted driving on Shabbos they clearly only intended for people to drive to and from shul. Well look where they wound up. Can one really imagine a phone with a Shabbos app that will remain shomer Shabbos?Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-47032526377730025742014-10-06T16:28:04.188-04:002014-10-06T16:28:04.188-04:00I'm wondering if the discussion is dangerous -...I'm wondering if the discussion is dangerous -- not that whether or not you carry the story would make or break the discussion.<br /><br />The project is absurd. The ignorant don't realize. All they hear and remember is that two sides debated. So, if the threat of actually producing a "Shabbos App" that would end up increasing chilul Shabbos is not real, we are needlessly setting them up as looking like they have a valid alternative position.<br /><br />FWIW, I said the same thing about the storm of responses to Zev Farber on thetorah.org. I think the replies introduced far far more people to Document Hypothesis and the notion that it could be fit into Yahadus than prevented people from following Farber down the Conservative rabbit hole.micha bergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11612144735431285113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-88610151604490555982014-10-06T16:15:01.490-04:002014-10-06T16:15:01.490-04:00R' Micha-
I think the discussion is worthwhile...R' Micha-<br />I think the discussion is worthwhile, even if the app is someone's trial ballon.<br /><br />R' Michael-<br />Indeed; I have heard a major contemporary posek say the same thing.<br /><br />RAM-<br />Or even to our crazy internal culture...The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-72251783490435921112014-10-06T10:09:00.209-04:002014-10-06T10:09:00.209-04:00There are more than enough permitted or encouraged...There are more than enough permitted or encouraged Shabbat activities. Staying connected to the crazy outside culture is not one of them.RAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-74666904094053870252014-10-06T09:55:01.125-04:002014-10-06T09:55:01.125-04:00I agree - I don't know whether the Achronim of...I agree - I don't know whether the Achronim of 100 years ago who ruled that electricity was forbidden on Shabbat could have foreseen the impact that ruling would have had, but a day every week free of electronic devices is one of the best things about being an observant Jew, and I sincerely hope that this Shabbos App is no more than a joke.Michael Sedleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02684514303911193073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-62497131180468849152014-10-06T06:16:07.032-04:002014-10-06T06:16:07.032-04:00Meanwhile, R' Yisrael Rosen of Machon Zomet al...Meanwhile, R' Yisrael Rosen of Machon Zomet also wonders if this isn't a hoax or a marketing experiment. See this article on <a href="http://www.srugim.co.il/91536-%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%99-%D7%90%D7%A4%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A9-%D7%91%D7%A1%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%9F-%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%AA" rel="nofollow">Serugim</a>. Although, R' Rosen blames Far-Left Orthodoxy for distorting halakhah, without going the obvious conclusion from his other point that there may not be a movement to blame for the project altogether.michahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903747662338530294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-84748807921549467572014-10-06T06:00:42.853-04:002014-10-06T06:00:42.853-04:00Meanwhile, their alleged rabbinic support won'...Meanwhile, their alleged rabbinic support won't put their names on the project, and <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1505518016/371965973?token=4ec4afd2" rel="nofollow">their Kickstarter hasn't even gone live yet</a>. The domain "YidTech.com" is registered in Shanghai, and despite the text on the bottom about "registered and unregistered trademarks of The YidTech, Inc. its affiliates and others", the US registry database has no entries for YidTech or "Shabbos App". I have no indication that YidTech is even a "they" rather than a "he" with a dream.<br /> <br />The whole reaction-counterreaction thing may be premature. All we're doing is creating a dialog about an untenable position, giving it more life in the community mindset than it deserves.michahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903747662338530294noreply@blogger.com