tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post1812233926955407555..comments2023-09-11T17:58:13.764-04:00Comments on The Rebbetzin's Husband: Dealing with Illness by bargaining with GdThe Rebbetzin's Husbandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-33362730652679838672011-08-23T21:26:49.038-04:002011-08-23T21:26:49.038-04:00Shmuel Beis-
Agreed on your anti-presumptuous poin...Shmuel Beis-<br />Agreed on your anti-presumptuous points, but I still am bothered by the implications for others.<br /><br />Joel-<br />TrueThe Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-86942395432901972552011-08-23T11:02:57.505-04:002011-08-23T11:02:57.505-04:00So I just keep on doing the regular davening, dedi...So I just keep on doing the regular davening, dedicate a shiur for a refuah shleimah perhaps, and hope for the best. <br />---------------------------------<br />Of course it never hurts to use it as an "excuse" for each of us to examine if there's something we couldbe doing a little bit better at.<br />KT<br />Joel RichAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-76630416827168885592011-08-22T22:42:28.813-04:002011-08-22T22:42:28.813-04:00>But even still, I can’t bring myself to say, “...>But even still, I can’t bring myself to say, “I’ll change my life if only You’ll take the bad thing away.” <br /><br />Perhaps that is an intuitive way of avoiding making promises under duress. After all, even after our bargaining, how many of us can say we stick to our end of the deal?<br /><br />>Another part of my reluctance is that the whole bargain is just so presumptuous.<br /><br />I don't know if that is necessarily the case. We have to recognize on some level (a delicate balance to stay away from narcissism) that we are experiencing these events for a reason that pertains to us on a personal level. Perhaps our salvation is an indication of distinct purpose, and we must search within to find why we were spared. Alternatively, it is also possible that we learned whatever lesson we were meant to, which is why we merited the grace period of survival.<br /><br />Good post, good food for thought.<br /><br />BTW Shmuel haKadmon (above) is not me. He and I have to figure something out.Shmuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08623549507370220071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-23282328851093596112011-08-22T22:20:39.616-04:002011-08-22T22:20:39.616-04:00Hi Shmuel,
What makes you call it a "straw ma...Hi Shmuel,<br />What makes you call it a "straw man"? I hear what you are saying, and I believe in that approach, but I'm not sure why you call the alternative derech a "straw man".The Rebbetzin's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14977193945074906534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7898782635470765614.post-24311411282241414292011-08-22T15:28:10.976-04:002011-08-22T15:28:10.976-04:00Rabbi--
I believe that the straw man you have set...Rabbi--<br /><br />I believe that the straw man you have set up (I'll do X if God takes away such and such bad thing) is unnecessary. <br /><br />When something bad happens to a person, isn't he supposed to think "what should I be learning from this?" and the answer of course depends on the situation, but one thing that seems to be common to, and called for in, all such situations is teshuva. Teshuva shouldn't be conditional, but to hope and pray for God's mercy based on one's teshuva seems appropriate (a la the model of anshei Ninveh).<br /><br />Isn't this (at least part of) the essence of ta'anit and chatzotzrot, and in a sense even tefila itself?Shmuelnoreply@blogger.com